Value Added Tax Day

Today, the 1st October, sees a host of changes to the VAT system. From today many items that were exempt are now subject to VAT. The sports drinks industry is just one area, and will now see it liable for VAT on its products.

The mightily successful Pasty Tax campaign managed to see off the Government attempts to tax the pasty. However, some pasties and sausage rolls could go up if they are kept in artificial warming cabinets. A pasty is only exempt if it is left to cool in the natural environment.

One area that did not escape having VAT added at 20% was the rotisserie chicken and other similar products that we now see in so many shops and supermarkets. Though I am sure the major supermarket chains lawyers are busy at work looking at the detail.

The Static Caravan has also escaped being subjected to VAT. However, from March 2013, they will see 5% VAT added. I am sure that industry will have more to say in the coming months. Also in the firing line will be hair-dressers chairs and alterations to listed building which will now be liable for 20% VAT.

So lets celebrate this day by supporting your local baker by buying a VAT free pasty!

Pastygate: The Musical

The Governments poorly thought out, and now dropped proposals on adding VAT onto the Cornish pasty has been made into a musical on YouTube.

Enjoy:

 

Pasty Tax Cools Down

The Government has had a change of heart on the proposals for VAT on bakery products like pasties. This is to be welcomed as Cornwall would have been adversely affected for obvious reasons.

The campaign to highlight the issues and problems these proposals would cause was very good. In many areas it was cross-party and the local and national press helped to give this campaign a very high-profile. However, it is amusing as someone not aligned to any political party to now watch the various political parties claim they did more work than the other party. All three of the national parties are at it, with each blaming the other for not doing enough.

Lastly, I would just point out that changes to the VAT system were just proposals, and were subject to public consultation (21st march – 2nd May).  Thankfully the responses were listen to, and more importantly, acted upon. So not really a U-turn, but nevertheless welcomed.

So well done to ALL, as it just goes to show that working together actually gets results.

The 3.14 Tax

I have been rather quiet on the subject of the pasty tax, or in other areas of the country the pie tax, as at first, I did not understand what was being proposed. As it seemed from reading the various media report, blogs and Facebook comments this tax was going to be implemented. However, this is not strictly the case.

What is correct is the HMRC is looking to simplify various aspects of the VAT system which has not largely changed since its introduction in 1973. The HMRC is carrying out a consultation between 21st March and 2nd May 2012. This does not just include the provision of hot food, but other areas too. Click HERE for the consultation document.

If any of the proposals in the consultation document is accepted, then these will become law in October 2012. Meanwhile, the HMRC wants to hear from people on these proposals and in the consultation document has said it is willing to meet and listen to people’s view that may be effected by the changes to the VAT system.

At Tuesday’s full council meeting of Cornwall Council the Portfolio Holder for Economy was asked a question on the ‘pasty tax.’ He gave a few details on this subject which gave the impression it is not all doom and gloom. I am grateful to Chris Ridgers for providing me with further information after I sent him an email asking for more details.

Cllr Ridgers has also said to me after a brief meeting with to discussing this issue that Cornwall Council will be making a robust response to the consultation on the impact this tax will have on the Cornish economy. Furthermore, Cornwall Council is working closely with the Cornish Pasty Association to make sure the right message is being sent to the HMRC. Both the initiatives I welcome, as working together will give Cornwall a stronger voice against these proposals.

For instance, The Cornish Pasty Association have quoted that its members produce 106 million pasties per year which generates sales approaching £65m. Based on Cornwall’s GDP of £7 billion, Cornish Pasty Association pasty turnover is close to 1% of Cornwall’s GDP.

It was also interesting to note Cornwall’s largest pasty producer, whose pasties are not generally sold ‘hot’ have stated that the tax change is immaterial to their business. If this is true, then pasty makers and businesses might have nothing to fear from these changes.

What I think is important is any definition on what is hot is sorted quickly because it states in the consultation food over ambient temperature of the room will need VAT applied. That might sound simple, but bakeries and the like are not renowned for being cold places. It would be far better if guidance is given by HMRC that includes the temperature of the food which makes it hot. Because saying ambient room temperature will lead to all sorts of confusion if these proposals are carried out.

Maybe the same rules governing food safety which gives clear guidance that temperature over 63c are deemed ‘hot.’ So if these same guidelines are used than most pasties would be non-vatable because most pasties are left to cool before serving. However those pasties/pies/sausage rolls that are placed in a hot-box either to comply with food safety rules or to keep hot are currently subject to VAT.

My advice is to send in your views to the HMRC during the consultation (address in the consultation document) process because the humble pasty shop might have got caught inadvertently in the cross-fire between the HMRC and certain big businesses.

Only then after people have taken the time to write in and make the case something might actually happen that will not harm the Cornish national dish.